In April 2008 I was in Kiev for the first time, at an organic farming conference. It was very well attended and I liked the city very much. There were many Orthodox churches in the old town, well preserved and freshly renovated. On an excursion I was on a black earth ground for the first time in my life. Otherwise I connect Ukraine with Chernobyl, the GAU of the nuclear power plant in 1986, which made me a real Green. 2015 I was again in Kiev, for a conference. The country has developed very fast. It was, before Krim and East Ukraine were in war with Russia.